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"If you have not by nature a critical mind
your staying here is useless."
G.I. Gurdjieff
"Imagine that there are two or three people who are awake in the midst of a multitude of sleeping people. They will certainly know each other. But those who are asleep cannot know them. How many are they? We do not know and we cannot know until we become like them. It has been clearly said before that each man can only see on the level of his own being. But two hundred conscious people, if they existed and if they found it necessary and legitimate, could change the whole of life on the earth. But either there are not enough of them, or they do not want to, or perhaps the time has not yet come, or perhaps other people are sleeping too soundly. - G.

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"Our perception of time varies. This is true in two ways: it varies from one person to another and, for each person, it varies with his physical or mental condition. The influence of age, health and emotional state are well enough known.

"Beside these general examples, there exist particular cases where the disappearance of time is complete: for example, during dreamless sleep, a brief loss of consciousness, or under general anaesthesia. The loss of the notion of time in such cases is due to physiological causes.

"But time can also be made to disappear by voluntary, conscious effort, especially an effort of concentration. By practising the latter assiduously, we observe this phenomenon from the very first exercises. As we intensify our concentration more and more, we perceive time less and less. -- Boris Mouravieff
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"First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the sick, the so-called incurables, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't mentally ill.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.
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"alt.magick.tyagi

Revolution means a circle so you end in the same place you started. The evolutinary process may be best represented by a spiral helix so each turn ends on a higher level. We now have the knowledge and the technology to take control of the evolution of life. If we fail to do it entropy (chaos) will win in the end. Of course on the large scale; i.e. the universe as a whole, it seems that entropy must win but maybe we can find a way for life, in some form, to go on despite the heat death of the universe.
Perhaps time is an illusion...


Collected Quotations
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"If you have not by nature a critical mind
your staying here is useless."
G.I. Gurdjieff
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This file contains a list of quotes from modern and historical sources.

The LIBER files are available via ftp from ftp.netcom.com in
pub/turf/LIBER_files.
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"We won't dispassionately investigate or rationally debate which drugs
do what damage and whether or how much of that damage is the result of
criminalization. We'd rather work ourselves into a screaming fit of
puritanism and then go home and take a pill."

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys."
P.J. O'Rourke
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"I would rather live in a society which treated children as adults than
one which treated adults as children."
Lizard
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"We hate our politicians so much that even if they tell us they lied, we
don't believe them."

Peter Newman
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and
deserve to get it good and hard."

"There is no underestimating the intelligence of the American public."

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless
series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

H.L. Mencken
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"We find two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take
possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt ends --
the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians
who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality dominate and plunder it."

Friedrich Engels
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"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that
you end up being governed by your inferiors."

Plato
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"People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're
begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals
among men were always automatically 'right.' Guns ended that, and social
democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work."

L. Neil Smith, _The Probability Broach_
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"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and
wording of the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United
States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and
court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that
what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and
carry firearms in a peaceful manner."

Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the
Judiciary, United States Senate, 97th Congress, Second Session (
February 1982 )
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"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I
didn't speak up because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for
the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. And
then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Political Quotations", Daniel B. Baker, ed. Rev. Martin Niemoeller, a
Protestant minister in Nazi Germany, in 1945; from "Political
Quotations", Daniel B. Baker, ed.
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"I guess you will have to go to jail. If that is the result of not
understanding the Income Tax Law, I will meet you there. We shall have a
merry, merry time, for all our friends will be there. It will be an
intellectual center, for no one understands the Income Tax Law except
persons who have not sufficient intelligence to understand the questions
that arise under it."

Senator Elihu Root of NY, 1913
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"A sure sign of a genius is that all of the dunces are in a confederacy
against him."

Frank Lloyd Wright
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"I am convinced that we can do to guns what we've done to drugs: create
a multi-billion dollar underground market over which we have absolutely
no control."
George L. Roman
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"When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."

James Dale Davidson, National Taxpayers Union
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"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to
claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin"
Cardinal Belleramine
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"If you think of yourselves as helpless and ineffectual, it is certain
that you will create a despotic government to be your master. The wise
despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that
they are helpless and ineffectual."

Frank Herbert, The Dosadi Experiment
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"The NSA can have my private key when they pry it from my cold, dead
neurons."

"If we have to kill 12 people to save 1 human life it will have been
worth it."

"Banning Assault Weapons to fight crime is as stupid as banning condoms
to prevent rape."

"Virtually all reasonable laws are obeyed, not because they are the law,
but because reasonable people would do that anyway. If you obey a law
simply because it is the law, that's a pretty likely sign that it
shouldn't be a law."

"The ultimate result of shielding men from the results of folly is to
fill the world with fools."

"The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than
what we have now."

"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."

"The welfare state reduces a citizen to a client, subordinates them to a
bureaucrat, and subjects them to rules that are anti- work, anti-family,
anti-opportunity and anti-property... Humans forced to suffer under such
anti-human rules naturally develop pathologies. The evening news is the
natural result of the welfare state."

Unknown
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"Since when is "public safety" the root password to the Constitution?"

C. D. Tavares
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"I do not believe that the government should have its long nose poked
into the private consensual relationships between people."

John Anderson, Independent presidential candidate, 1980
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"When goods don't cross borders, soldiers will."

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to
live at the expense of everyone else."

Fredric Bastiat, early French economist
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"They [The makers of the Constitution] conferred, as against the
government, the right to be let alone - the most comprehensive of rights
and the right most valued by civilized men."

"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty
when the government's purposes are beneficial ... the greatest dangers
to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning
but without understanding."

Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis, 1928
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"Perhaps the removal of trade restrictions throughout the world would do
more for the cause of universal peace than can any political union of
peoples separated by trade barriers."

Frank Chodorov
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"Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge where
there is no river."

Nikita Khrushchev
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"We have rights, as individuals, to give as much of our own money as we
please to charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to
appropriate a dollar of public money."

David Crockett, Congressman 1827-35
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"The legacy of Democrats and Republicans approaches: Libertarianism by
bankruptcy."

Nick Nuessle, 1992
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"Our schools have been scientifically designed to prevent overeducation
from happening. The average American (should be) content with their
humble role in life, because they're not tempted to think about any
other role."

U.S. Commissioner of Education, William T. Harris, 1889
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"Truth and news are not the same thing."

Katharine Graham, owner of The Washington Post
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"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a bit longer."

Henry Kissinger
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"I'm a politician, and as a politician I have the perogotive to lie
whenever I want."

Charles Peacock, ex-director of Madison Guaranty, the Arkansas S&L at
center of Whitewatergate.
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"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic
statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of
us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and
being honest. "

Stephen Schneider, environmental activist, in _Discover_, Oct. '89
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"The children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of
the collective society that is coming, where everyone would be
interdependent." 1899

"Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive
anachronism in the collective society of the future where people will be
defined by their associations." 1896 John Dewey, educational
philosopher, proponent of modern public schools.

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"Motion pictures are of course a different medium of expression than the
public speech, the radio, the stage, the novel, or the magazine. But the
First Amendment draws no distinction between the various methods of
communicating ideas."

William O. Douglas, Supreme Court Justice, 1953
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"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by
the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the
government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be
enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in
this country is closely connected with this."

Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921
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"I think the terror most people are concerned with is the IRS."

Malcolm Forbes, when asked if he was afraid of terrorism
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"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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"The usual road to slavery is that first they take away your guns, then
they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up
and say you are enjoying it."

James A. Donald
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"Every friend of freedom must be as revolted as I am by the prospect of
turning the United States into an armed camp, by the vision of jails
filled with casual drug users and of an army of enforcers empowered to
invade the liberty of citizens on slight evidence."

"The high rate of unemployment among teenagers, and especially black
teenagers, is both a scandal and a serious source of social unrest. Yet
it is largely a result of minimum wage laws. We regard the minimum wage
law as one of the most, if not the most, antiblack laws on the statute
books."

Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize-winning economist
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"Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to
observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own
existence"

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Tom C. Clark - Mapp vs. Ohio
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"A policy of subsidizing failures will end in an economy strewn with
capital-guzzling industries long past their time of profitability - old
companies that cannot create jobs themselves, but can stand in the way
of job creation."

George Gilder, _Wealth and Poverty_
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"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough
to take it all away."

Barry Goldwater
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"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who
approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but
downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably
ruined."

"Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of
chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course
others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

Patrick Henry
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"A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring
one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own
pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth
of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government,
and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicity."

"If we were directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we
would soon want for bread."

"No nation was ever drunk when wine was cheap."

"Our liberty depends on freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited
without being lost."

"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations - entangling
alliance with none."

"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of
himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have
we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer
this question."

"That government is best which governs the least, because its people
discipline themselves."

"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect
the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his
estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate
make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from
others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against
their wills."

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any
party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in
anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an
addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could
not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."

"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of
ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will
always avail themselves for their own purpose. "

"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no
god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government."

Thomas Jefferson
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"...You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot lift the
wage earner by pulling down the wage payer..."

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to
control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things
that are not crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very
principles upon which our government was founded."

Abraham Lincoln
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"Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to
repeat them."

George Santayana
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"Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right
to but himself. The labor of his body and the work of his hands are
properly his."

John Locke, 1690
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"There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the
people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by
violent and sudden usurpation."
James Madison
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"A general State education is a mere contrivance for molding people to
be exactly like one another; and as the mold in which it casts them is
that which pleases the dominant power in the government, whether this be
a monarch, an aristocracy, or a majority of the existing generation; in
proportion as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despotism
over the mind, leading by a natural tendency to one over the body."

John Stuart Mill, 1859
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"Taxation of earnings from labor is on a par with forced labor. Seizing
the results of someone's labor is equivalent to seizing hours from him
and directing him to carry on various activities."

Robert Nozick, Harvard philosopher
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"Alcohol didn't cause the high crime rates of the '20s and '30s,
Prohibition did. And drugs do not cause today's alarming crime rates,
but drug prohibition does."

"Trying to wage war on 23 million Americans who are obviously very
committed to certain recreational activities is not going to be any more
successful than Prohibition was."

US District Judge James C. Paine, addressing the Federal Bar Association
in Miami, November, 1991
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"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in
Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world,
precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic
turmoil to our people."

Congressman Ron Paul, 1987
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"Altruism does not mean mere kindness or generosity, but the sacrifice
of the best among men to the worst, the sacrifice of virtues to flaws,
of ability to incompetence, of progress to stagnation--and the
subordinating of all life and of all values to the claims of anyone's
suffering."

"The man who produces while others dispose of his product is a slave."

"It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone
collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there is service, there is
someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice speaks of
slaves and masters. And intends to be master."

"Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think that you are facing a
contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is
wrong." [Francisco d'Anconia]

"I swear by my life and my love for it that I will never live for the
sake of another man or ask another man to live for mine." [John Galt]

"I am interested in politics so that one day I will not have to be
interested in politics."

Ayn Rand
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"Pragmatism is the convenient conclusion reached by those who lack the
patience or intelligence to formulate a consistant ideology."

Mark G. Hanley
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"I oppose registration for the draft... because I believe the security
of freedom can best be achieved by security through freedom."

Ronald Reagan
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"Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come
when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict
the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to
others: The Constitution of this Republic should make a special
privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom."

Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence
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"When I was a kid I was told anyone could become President. Now I'm
beginning to believe it."

"The difference between death and taxes is death doesn't get worse every
time Congress meets."

Will Rogers, 1920's
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"It's no longer an issue of contention that privatization is a solution.
You can always rely on government to make the right decision, but only
after it has exhausted every other conceivable alternative."

E. S. Savas, a management professor at Baruch College in New York who
advised Giuliani during the campaign.
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"Decriminalization would take the profit out of drugs and greatly
reduce, if not eliminate, the drug-related violence that is currently
plaguing our streets."

Kurt L. Schmoke, Baltimore Mayor
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"They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba.
So why do they want to come here?"

Paul Harvey 8/31/94
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"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas."

Joseph Stalin
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"Now what I contend is that my body is my own, at least I have always so
regarded it. If I do harm through my experimenting with it, it is I who
suffers, not the state."

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.
But I repeat myself."

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you
nothing. It was here first."

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that the only
distinctly native American criminal class is Congress."

Mark Twain
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from
the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for
the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with
the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy
always followed by dictatorship."

Alexander Fraser Tyler, "The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic"
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"Although I am a strong political conservative, I now believe that the
costs of our fruitless struggle against illegal drugs are not worth the
modest benefits likely to be achieved."

Prof. Ernest van den Haag, contributing editor, National Review
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"Ironically, on the 200th anniversary of our Bill of Rights, we find
free speech under assault throughout the United States, including on
some college campuses." 4-May-1991 George Bush

"'Pro-[legalized]-drug' teachers cannot be tolerated." 12-Apr-1991 Bob
Martinez

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"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and
have a tremendous impact on history. Dan Quayle
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"A protective tariff is a typical conspiracy in restraint of trade."

Thorstein Veblen, economist
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"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be."

Voltaire
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"It's illegal to say to a voter "Here's $100, vote for me." So what do
the politicians do? They offer the $100 in the form of Health Care,
Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Food Stamps, tobacco subsidies,
grain payments, NEA payments, and jobs programs."

Don Farrar - average guy, age 51
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"We propose a five-word constitutional amendment: There shall be open
borders. People are the great resource, and so long as we keep our
economy free, more people means more growth, the more the merrier. Study
after study shows that even the most recent immigrants give more than
they take."

Wall Street Journal
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"Love your country but fear its government."

N.E. folk wisdom
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"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire,
a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it
be left to irresponsible action."

"It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any
portion of the foreign world. The great rule of conduct for us in regard
to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have
with them as little political connection as possible."

George Washington
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"Where is it written in the Constitution, in what section or clause is
it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents
from their children, and compel them to fight the battle in any war in
which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it?"

Daniel Webster
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"Be wary of strong spirits. It can make you shoot at tax collectors ...
and miss."

Robert A. Heinlein
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"Substituting God for alcohol or any other drug is indeed a swapping of
dependencies. But last I looked, God didn't eat your liver."

Judex
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"If you protect a man from folly, you will soon have a nation of fools."

- William Penn
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"Every dollar spent to punish a drug user or seller is a dollar that
cannot be spent collecting restitution from a robber. Every hour spent
investigating a drug user or seller is an hour that could have been used
to find a missing child. Every trial held to prosecute a drug user or
seller is court time that could be used to prosecute a rapist in a case
that might otherwise have been plea bargained. - Randy E. Barnett,
"Curing the Drug-Law Addiction”
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The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest.
Kilgore Trout, (Philip Jose Farmer), "Venus on the Half Shell"
pseud. of Philip Jose Farmer
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"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming
in terror like his passengers."
Jim Larkin
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